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Post by BIT0122-Amit Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:49 pm

Well, I am sure that you guys don't want to read the notices intended for other batches, right?

For example, the notice of 1st batch are not needed for 2nd batch.

So I think we should do this.

1. Use the iit-du group for really urgent notices. only notices which are supposed to be sent to whole IIT will be sent here.
2. use separate groups per batch.

The group of bit1st batch already exists in both yahoo and Google.
The yahoo group is here:
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But in my opinion, google group has some manageability issues. but then again, it is the choice of 1st batch to decide what group we are going to use.

What is your opinion?
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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:56 am

I am suggesting to google group for our batch (which was created by Jewel sir). Because its easy to find any email address through our roll no. But is it good or bad that "google group has some manageability issues" ? :S
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:01 am

BIT0129-tabassum wrote:I am suggesting to google group for our batch (which was created by Jewel sir). Because its easy to find any email address through our roll no. But is it good or bad that "google group has some manageability issues" ? :S

Ahem, Sir didn't exactly create a group for us in google. He created email addresses, and when email was sent to bit01 [at] gmail [dot] com, it would forward it to all bit01XX[at]gmail[dot]com.

I was talking about this one.
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Yes, what Jewel sir provided us is good. But how many of us check that email address everyday?
I have integrated it with my main gmail account, so I get it. But what about the users who use yahoo mail more?
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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:24 am

Thats right..I am checking Yahoo mail most of the time because of group.
By the way..I can't remember about the google group (from your given link).
I am not sure whether I am member of that group or not Razz
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:27 am

Thats right..I am checking Yahoo mail most of the time because of group.
Does that mean

-You are forced to check yahoo mail but you don't want to?
-You are glad that the group sends mail to yahoo?

Fortunately, yahoo group mails can be set to be sent to any mail account provided by any provider.

The google group...
It was first ever group, I created it on the first day of our IIT life.
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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:31 am

That means, I am checking yahoo mails because the group is yahoo Neutral
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:32 am

you have the option of sending the yahoo group mails to the mail address you check regularly you know Neutral

Anyway,

There was mohaimin, saying that:

at least you could ask people before doing so

and there I was, saying:

Thing is, many times before that I have asked many things, and hardly anyone bothered answering.

how many people participate in decisions concerning forum?

Geee.... lots of people participating here Neutral
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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:40 am

Most of the people are enjoying there vacation and they are not now regular in forum because most probably they don't have anything to take like slides, syllabus now Neutral
Another thing, we have make this topic just this afternoon. Please wait...you may get replies in the mean time Smile
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:43 am

yeah yeah... people don't even take a look at urgent notices and then tell me that I am doing whatever I want to, I am always right bla bla bla.

If I always did what I wanted to, then this place would be hell :S
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Post by BIT0107-Toma Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:16 am

I would prefer Google group.
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:23 am

BIT0107-toma wrote:I would prefer Google group.

The "google group " group or the "bit01 mail" group?
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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:02 am

I think Toma is telling about Jewel sir's group...am I right Toma?
Most of us don't have idea about your "bit01 group" confused
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:14 am

Can you read?
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the bit01 group is not mine, but was created by Jewel sir.
And if you are referring to the google group created by me, I created it because Jewel sir told me to.
And it is bit-1st-batch. not "bit01".


And you did have idea, I told you guys to join there numerous times.

It is not my fault that you folks forgot.
About jewel sir's group, I "think" noone except the bit01xx mail holders can mail to bit01 mail address.


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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:28 am

I was talking about your group which I told "BIT01 group". pale
..and if you told me..its quite unbelievable that I am not the member there Neutral
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:55 am

ঝাড়ি খেয়ে তোর দেখি মুখ শুকিয়ে গেছে!!
:p আচ্ছা, ঝাড়ি তুলে নিলাম।

আমি তোদের কে বলেছিলাম, কিন্তু তখন ছিল একদম প্রথম দিন Neutral ওই দিন না শুনার কথা Neutral
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Post by BIT0129-Tabassum Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:59 am

ami to tor shob kothai from 1st day shune ashtesi pale
mone hoy amr net cilona dekhe korte parinai :S
(abar jhari start korish na bangla vasha English letter a likhar jonno..ami akhono avro install korinai Razz)
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Post by BIT0107-Toma Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:15 am

I am talking about google group created before. But now it is locked for lack of activity.
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:42 am

BIT0129-tabassum wrote:ami to tor shob kothai from 1st day shune ashtesi pale
mone hoy amr net cilona dekhe korte parinai :S
(abar jhari start korish na bangla vasha English letter a likhar jonno..ami akhono avro install korinai Razz)

আসলে শুনেছিলি Neutral
এই দেখঃ
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তোর হাজার হাজার email এর কোনটা ব্যবহার করেছিস তুইই জানিস।

তমা, কয়েকটা ছোট্ট ঝামেলা আছে google group এ।
-এইটা দেখতে খ্যাত।
-খ্যাত ভাব কাটাতে গিয়ে দেখি আমি appearance এ ঢুকতেই পারছি না।
মনে হয় এইটা lock হয়ে গেছে।
Neutral unlock করে কিভাবে এইটা এখন খুঁজা লাগবে (যদি locked হয় আরকি।)।
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Post by BIT0102-Mohaimin Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:33 pm

Yahoo mail is too much annoying, google is far better...
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Post by BIT0102-Mohaimin Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:52 pm

@Amit
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Geee.... lots of people participating here

You said this at the sixth hour of the birth of this topic.
You should not expect everyones life is bounded inside computer... Life is much bigger. People do not go online all the time.

However, I know very few people will reply in this topic as usual, but the is not a big deal. Even when we ask something in class in presence of all, very few express their opinion. This is the admins' responsibility to ask for opinion, whether people reply or not. Otherwise you'll have to here things like "you do whatever you like".

You are good at work but are a very poor manager. You need to learn a lot of things about "how to lead a group". I would suggest you not to do business after you pass IIT. I believe your employees will leave you whenever the get a chance.
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:06 pm

BIT0102-Mohaimin wrote:Yahoo mail is too much annoying, google is far better...

Sighhhhhh....
Let me clear up a few things. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

1. We are trying to discuss about.. where to place/make the group or which group to use. Where we are receiving mails is not an issue, as it can be changed.
2. Yahoo! group system has better manageability features.
2. Yahoo! group system looks better. (to me at least [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] this point can be ignored)
3. You can join in an Yahoo! group using an yahoo! id, but you can configure your group membership settings so that it can send mail to your Gmail account instead of Yahoo mail account.
4. I agree with Mohaimin's point of Yahoo! mail being annoying.

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see? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] bounce

I searched this morning, and I could not find any way about how to receive Google group mails from another email address such as Yahoo! Am still searching, but this should be considered an important point, because not everyone will think like me/Mohaimin about Yahoo mail being annoying.

BIT0102-Mohaimin wrote:@Amit
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Geee.... lots of people participating here

However, I know very few people will reply in this topic as usual, but the is not a big deal. Even when we ask something in class in presence of all, very few express their opinion. This is the admins' responsibility to ask for opinion, whether people reply or not. Otherwise you'll have to here things like "you do whatever you like".

I am not expecting everyone to show up here to express their opinion. But consider this scenario.

->You shouted at the top of your lungs at class, asking for opinions, and very few answered.
->You did something based on few opinions, and then implemented some decisions.
->Next day, you were accused of doing things on your own, i.e. according to some, you didn't ask for opinion.
->Or although you give a very reasonable explanation of what you did and why, people accused of not explaining what is going on.

Once or twice, this event can be ignored. But hear that a dozen times, and anyone might get annoyed.

হাবিজাবি প্যাচাল।:
Anyway Mohaimin, I know I suck being a manager. But I am trying. You and Bazlur said that I write too many things. I now try to write less, and don't tend to answer probable questions in advance. Problem is, if there is no one to give me feedback, how can I realize whether I am trying the good things or the bad ones? So please, help me being a better manager/admin. I want to know about "how to lead a group". Smile

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Post by BIT0102-Mohaimin Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:22 pm

You can join in an Yahoo! group using an yahoo! id, but you can configure your group membership settings so that it can send mail to your Gmail account instead of Yahoo mail account.

That was convincing. I never knew that. Free Yahoo mail account to not provide this facility for personal mail. If it is possible for groups, then I dont have any problem. I just to log in to yahoo mail.

And, first thing to be a good leader is, "Do not blame your subordinates continuously, the will blame you too if you do so." Wink
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:19 pm

BIT0102-Mohaimin wrote:

That was convincing. I never knew that. Free Yahoo mail account to not provide this facility for personal mail. If it is possible for groups, then I dont have any problem. I just to log in to yahoo mail.

And, first thing to be a good leader is, "Do not blame your subordinates continuously, the will blame you too if you do so." Wink

কিন্তু "I just to log in to yahoo mail." এইটা বুঝি নাই Neutral

একটা paradox দিয়ে দিলি Neutral বদ।
আমি সহজে শুনি না আমার কি খারাপ কি ভালো এইটা বলাও blaming Neutral কাজেই আমি এইটা বললে অন্যরা দোষ দেবে। আবার আমি এইটা না বললে হয়তো কেউ বলবেই না।
বললেও ঝামেলা, না বললেও।
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group email এ মজার, অথবা interactive email মনে হয় আসলেই দিতে পারা উচিত। তাহলে অন্য ব্যাচের ছাত্রদের সাথে কিছুটা হলেও যোগাযোগ থাকবে।
আমি বলছি না দুনিয়ার আজাইরা email সব পাঠানো যাবে, তবে একদমই পাঠানো যাবে এমনও না।
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Post by BIT0122-Amit Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:46 pm

BIT0118-shakir wrote:

অতি জ্ঞান গর্ভ মতামত confused
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